400万FIL测试网奖励计划7月20日启动;经济模型参数即将确定 | 6月26日AMA完全整理

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6月26日, 北京时间上午10点Filecoin项目创始人胡安贝尼在Slido上进行了线上问答活动。一小时的时间里,胡安和其他几位Filecoin开发者在线上回答关于测试网激励和主网上线的40个问题。

火星云矿(mclouds.io)跟踪翻译整理,其中关键信息点如下:

1. 测试网的激励机制基于原始字节算力、交易完成和扇区生命周期参与度;

2. 为了最大程度的获得订单,将需要大量存储空间,良好的网络连接以及相当好的硬件;

3. 在硬件方面,AMD比intel更适用于目前的算法;

4. 从现在开始,我们要做的就是修复错误,提高性能以及使用新的API和文档改进UX;

5. 400万FIL测试网奖励计划将于7月20日开始;

6. 试图“欺骗”其位置的矿工将完全没有资格获得所有奖励;

7. 即使有一些大型矿池,任何人都可以加入网络并只需购买少量硬件即可提供存储,我们希望客户将其文件存储在许多不同的矿工中;

8. 主网经济模型参数将在7月确定;

9. 如果矿工丢失了数据,数据无法恢复。但如果数据本身是可恢复的,矿工可以通过恢复数据重新获得该扇区;

10. 矿工和客户之间交易的最短时长由矿工提单的时候决定,目前最低限制是1个月。 

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完整Q&A内容由火星云矿(mclouds.io)翻译整理:

1. Can the hard disk of fil discover catch up with the incentive competition on July 20 in time?

(官方Filecoin Discover的硬盘(发货进度)能赶上7月20日的测试网奖励竞赛吗?)

Filecoin Discover and testnet incentives are not related. Testnet incentives are based on raw byte-power, deal completion, and sector lifecycle participation. Filecoin Discover hard drives, and the verified client mechanism in general, have no impact on incentives.

(Filecoin Discover和testnet奖励没有关系。Testnet的激励机制基于原始字节算力、交易完成和扇区生命周期参与度。一般来说,Filecoin Discover硬盘驱动器和验证客户端机制不会对激励产生影响。)

2. What are the main factors for obtaining orders after filecoin go online? Algorithm? Hardware?Is there a difference between Intel and AMD? 

(Filecoin上线后获得订单的主要因素是什么?算法?硬件?英特尔和AMD之间有区别吗?)

To maximise the deals being made with your miner, you’ll need lots of storage, a good network connection, and reasonably good hardware (AMD works much better, see: https://github.com/filecoin-project/lotus/blob/master/documentation/en/sealing-procs.md).

–Aayush

(为了最大程度地与您的矿工进行交易,您将需要大量存储空间,良好的网络连接以及相当好的硬件(AMD的性能要好得多,请参阅:https://github.com/filecoin-project/lotus/blob/master/documentation/en/sealing-procs.md))

3. How likely is the NSE algorithm to come on line later?Is AMD’s configuration the most consistent with the current SDR algorithm.

(NSE算法发布的可能性有多大?AMD的配置与当前的SDR算法最一致吗?)

About NSE: NSE is one of the best candidates for a proof upgrade, and teams are working on implementation. But there are other candidates too, which are promising as well. It may be that another algorithm ends up better than NSE — we don’t know yet. Proof upgrades will arrive after mainnet launch and will coexist.

Yes, AMD may be optimal for SDR, see this for why: https://github.com/filecoin-project/lotus/blob/master/documentation/en/sealing-procs.md

(关于NSE:NSE是进行证明升级的最佳候选之一,并且团队正在努力实施。但是也有其他候选,也很有希望。可能是另一种算法的结果比NSE更好-我们尚不知道。证明升级将在主网启动后到来并共存。

是的,AMD可能是SDR的最佳选择,原因如下:https://github.com/filecoin-project/lotus/blob/master/documentation/en/sealing-procs.md

4. What are the changes to the algorithm and logic layer of lotus and go-filecoin before going online?

(上线之前,Lotus和go-filecoin的算法和逻辑层有哪些变化?)

No changes to “algorithm and logic” before we go live — from here on out, all we’re doing is fixing bugs (so please report them!), improving performance (our sync is *much* faster on the latest Testnet), and improving the UX with new APIs and documentation.

(在我们上线之前,“算法和逻辑”没有变化

从现在开始,我们要做的就是修复错误(因此,请报告错误!),提高性能(在最新的Testnet上,我们的同步*快得多*)以及使用新的API和文档改进UX。)

5. Will the 4M incentive program start on 20th of July?

(400万的测试网奖励计划是否将于7月20日开始?)

Yes.

6. Has Filecoin confirmed the use of SDR algorithm? Is there any evidence of malicious construction???

(Filecoin是否已确认使用SDR算法?是否有恶意构造的证据???)

SDR is confirmed for mainnet launch, and we have no evidence of malicious construction. The algorithm is also going through both internal and external security audits.

If you have any information about any potential security problem or malicious construction, reach out to our team at security@filecoin.org.

(SDR已确认可用于主网启动,并且我们没有恶意构建的证据。该算法还正在进行内部和外部安全审核。

如果您有任何有关任何潜在安全问题或恶意构建的信息,请通过security@filecoin.org与我们的团队联系。)

7. In the coming SpaceRace, how to identify a miner’s real location?

(在即将到来的SpaceRace中,如何识别矿工的真实位置?)

We’ll use a variety of technical and non-technical mechanisms. They may also be different for different miners. To avoid cheating, we’re not revealing the specific mechanisms until verification begins.

When we verify miners’ locations, we’ll reach out by email and coordinate a time that the miner will be standing by to provide verification. We’ll ask for some specific evidence and require submission within a short time period.

Location verification is not required to participate in either (i) the global leaderboard or (ii) the regional leaderboard for the most competitive region (i.e., the region with the most storage).

We consider the location of the storage and sealing hardware to be the location of the miner.

Please note that miners who attempt to “spoof” their location will be completely ineligible for all rewards.

我们将使用各种技术和非技术机制。对于不同的矿工,它们可能也有所不同。为避免作弊,在验证开始之前,我们不会透露具体的机制。

验证矿工的位置后,我们将通过电子邮件与他们联系,并协调矿工待命的时间以提供验证。我们将要求您提供一些具体证据,并要求在短时间内提交。

不需要提交地址证明来参加(i)全球排行榜或(ii)最具竞争力的区域(即存储量最大的区域)的区域排行榜的位置验证。

我们认为存储和密封硬件的位置就是矿工的位置。

请注意,试图“欺骗”其位置的矿工将完全没有资格获得所有奖励。

8. Is there a miner’s KYC certification process? By which way? How to identify the mining location of miners?

(有矿工的KYC认证流程吗?用什么方式 如何识别矿工的采矿地点?)

To receive tokens, miners will be required to verify their identity by providing passports or similar identity documents. We may need to request additional information in rare cases.

We’ll use a variety of technical and non-technical mechanisms. They may also be different for different miners. To avoid cheating, we’re not revealing the specific mechanisms until verification begins.

When we verify miners’ locations, we’ll reach out by email and coordinate a time that the miner will be standing by to provide verification. We’ll ask for some specific evidence and require submission within a short time period.

Location verification is not required to participate in either (i) the global leaderboard or (ii) the regional leaderboard for the most competitive region (i.e., the region with the most storage).

We consider the location of the storage and sealing hardware to be the location of the miner.

Please note that miners who attempt to “spoof” their location will be completely ineligible for all rewards.

(我们认为存储和密封硬件的位置就是矿工的位置。

请注意,试图“欺骗”其位置的矿工将完全没有资格获得所有奖励。)

我们将使用各种技术和非技术机制。对于不同的矿工,它们可能也有所不同。为避免作弊,在验证开始之前,我们不会透露具体的机制。

验证矿工的位置后,我们将通过电子邮件与他们联系,并协调矿工待命的时间以提供验证。我们将要求您提供一些具体证据,并要求在短时间内提交。

不需要提交地址证明来参加(i)全球排行榜或(ii)最具竞争力的区域(即存储量最大的区域)的区域排行榜的位置验证。

我们认为存储和密封硬件的位置就是矿工的位置。

请注意,试图“欺骗”其位置的矿工将完全没有资格获得所有奖励。

9. How to realize reward network retrieval and real data?

(如何实现奖励网络检索和真实数据?)

During the competition, once your miner has > 0 storage power, many bots will begin attempting storage and retrieval deals with your miner. The competition dashboard will display your deal success rate in near-real time. Miners below a certain high threshold will be ineligible to receive rewards.

We plan to run the bots for one to two weeks before the competition to give miners a chance to test their configuration, and will announce when that begins.

(在比赛中,一旦您的矿工的存储功率大于0,许多机器人将开始尝试与您的矿工进行存储和检索交易。竞争仪表板将近实时显示您的交易成功率。低于某个高门槛的矿工将没有资格获得奖励。

我们计划在比赛前将机器人运行一到两周,以使矿工有机会测试其配置,并会宣布何时开始。)

10. The Filecoin Client is not usable enough, so how to give a deal by customers when mainnet launch?

(Filecoin客户端无法充分使用,那么在主网启动时如何由客户进行交易?)

Improving the UX and fixing bugs is our only priority right now. We’re excited to be fixing all the issues the community is reporting, so please keep complaining (file issues on Github, and post in #fil-lotus on Slack).

(改进UX和修复错误是我们目前唯一的优先事项。我们很高兴能解决社区报告的所有问题,因此请继续抱怨(在Github上提交问题,并在Slack上的#fil-lotus中发布)。)

11. Lotus or Gofilecoin,which is better for miners?

(Lotus或Gofilecoin,哪个对矿工更好?)

Lotus is our reference implementation, and getting more developer attention right now.

(Lotus是我们的参考实现,现在越来越引起开发人员的注意。)

12. So we are going to use SDR till 6 months after Filecoin come on line ? Is NSE (or some other algorithms) be used or added after after Filecoin come on line ?

(那么我们要在Filecoin上线后的6个月内使用SDR吗?Filecoin上线后是否使用或添加NSE(或其他一些算法)?)

We have other constructions in development, NSE and other options. They will be proposed as network upgrades through a FIP (Filecoin Improvement Proposal) after Mainnet launch. We hope to have at least one of these faster and cheaper constructions online within 6-12mo, but the development timeline depends on a lot of different constraints after mainnet launch. Note that new proofs will coexist with SDR, so a new cheaper proof will be optional to miners.

(我们在开发,NSE和其他选项方面还有其他结构。在主网启动后,将通过FIP(Filecoin改进提案)提出网络升级建议。我们希望在6-12mo内至少有一种更快,更便宜的在线构造,但是开发时间表取决于主网启动后的许多不同限制。请注意,新的证明将与SDR共存,因此矿工可以选择使用新的更便宜的证明。)

13. Will the existence of filecoin pool lead to the deviation of centralized storage from the vision of distributed storage?

(Filecoin矿池的存在是否会导致存储的集中化,从而偏离分布式存储的愿景?)

No – Filecoin creates a decentralized storage network in part by massively decreasing the barrier to entry to becoming a storage provider. Even if there were some large pools, anyone can join the network and provide storage with just a modest hardware purchase, and we expect clients to store their files with many diverse miners.

Also, note that world location matters for mining: many clients will prefer miners in specific regions of the world, so this enables lots of miners to succeed across the world, where there is storage demand.

(不,Filecoin可以部分地通过大大降低成为存储提供商的准入门槛来创建去中心化的存储网络。即使有一些大型矿池,任何人都可以加入网络并只需购买少量硬件即可提供存储,我们希望客户将其文件存储在许多不同的矿工中。

另外,请注意,地理位置对挖矿至关重要:许多客户将更喜欢在世界特定地区的矿工,因此这使许多矿工在存在存储需求的世界各地都能成功。)

14. Any updates of the security research fellowship? any new critical bugs ? been found/submitted?

(安全研究有任何进展吗?是否发现/提交了新的严重错误?)

In the next couple of weeks, there will be a website to view bug submissions, security research fellows, and submit new reports. We also plan to introduce a public bounty program similar to Ethereum’s.

(在接下来的几周中,将有一个网站可以查看错误提交,安全研究人员提交新报告。我们还计划推出类似于以太坊的公共赏金计划。)

15. If someone could bring many ‘verified client’ or reputable business data users on board, any mechanism for rewarding/benifit this activity?

(如果有人可以带动许多“经过验证的客户”或信誉良好的业务数据用户,那么有什么机制可以奖励/受益于这项活动?)

We anticipate that miners will compete for deals from verified clients, and some partnerships could emerge between miners and reputable users.

(我们预计,矿工将与经过验证的客户争夺交易,并且矿工与信誉良好的用户之间可能会出现一些合作伙伴关系。)

16. How does a committed capacity sector turn into a sector with real client data? Is it automatically covered with real data when there’s a real deal?

(承诺的容量扇区如何变成具有真实客户数据的扇区?达成交易时,会自动用真实数据覆盖吗?)

Committed Capacity sectors are like empty Uber cars on a platform economy. Miners commit capacity to the network when there is unmet supply and upgrade them to sectors with deals when demand arrives to earn additional revenue. For the first iteration of the protocol, we will reuse much of the existing code path. Miners will publish their storage deals, announce to the chain that they are doing an upgrade, and prove that the upgrade has been done successfully.

(承诺产能扇区就像平台经济上的空Uber汽车。矿工在供应不足时向网络承诺容量,并在需求到来时将其升级为有交易的扇区以赚取额外收入。对于协议的第一次迭代,我们将复用许多现有的代码路径。矿工将发布他们的存储交易,向链宣布他们正在进行升级,并证明升级已成功完成。)

17. What do miners have to do to change a committed capacity sector into a “real-data” sector?

(矿工如何将承诺的产能扇区转变为“真实数据”扇区?)

We are reusing much of the existing code path for this first iteration. Miners will publish storage deals that they will upgrade the CC sector with, announce to the chain that they are doing an upgrade, and prove to the chain that a new sector has been sealed correctly. We expect to evolve and make this cheaper and more attractive over time after Mainnet.

(我们在第一次迭代中复用了许多现有的代码路径。矿工将发布存储交易,与之一起升级承诺容量扇区,并向链宣布其正在进行升级,并向链证明新扇区已正确密封。我们希望随着主网的发展,随着时间的推移,它会变得更便宜,更有吸引力。)

18. Hi, look at this.??How do ordinary people, not geeks, get involved in this work?

(普通人如何参与这项工作?)

You can start from checking out the tutorials from Protoschool: https://proto.school/#/tutorials

Participate in the hackathon and future events of Filecoin Ignite: https://ignite.fil.events/

Check out the different tools to build dapps on Filecoin: https://blog.textile.io/

(您可以从Protoschool的教程开始:https://proto.school/#/tutorials

参加Filecoin Ignite的黑客马拉松和未来事件:https://ignite.fil.events/

查看在Filecoin上构建dapp的不同工具:https://blog.textile.io/

19. What are the standards and conditions of the verifier, is there a selected institution to verify, can you tell us about this situation?

(验证者的标准和条件是什么?是否有选定的机构进行验证,您能告诉我们这种情况吗?)

There will be several different institutions. We don’t have more updates about Verfiers at this time. We will have more around mid July.

(会有几个不同的机构。目前,我们没有关于验证者的更多更新。我们会在7月中旬左右更新更多信息。)

20. What is the mechanism of verified clients? How to apply to be verified clients?

(验证客户的机制是什么?如何申请经过验证的客户?)

Check out this presentation for the basics of Verified Clients and Verifiers: https://youtu.be/q5Vwr0cwQuY?t=920 — We don’t have more updates about Verfiers at this time. We will update more later in July.

(请查看此演示文稿,以了解已验证客户端和验证程序的基础知识:https://youtu.be/q5Vwr0cwQuY?t=920-目前我们没有关于验证者的更多更新。我们稍后将在7月更新更多信息。)

21. Why not implement the scheme that the white paper says “miners and clients automatically match orders through order books”?Is it because the LIMITS of TPS ?

(为什么不执行白皮书中所说的“矿工和客户通过订单簿自动匹配订单”的方案?是因为TPS的限制吗?)

There will be off-chain orderbooks and miner marketplaces — some are in development now from some teams. They will work mostly off-chain, because TPS on chain is not enough for the volume of usage we expect on Filecoin. These orderbooks build on the basic deal-flow on chain. These orderbooks will arrive in their own development trajectory — most likely around or soon after mainnet launch.

(将会有链下订单和矿工市场-一些团队正在开发中。它们将大部分在链下工作,因为链上的TPS不足以达到我们期望在Filecoin上使用的数量。这些订单基于链上的基本交易流程。这些订单将以它们自己的发展轨迹出现-最有可能在主网启动前后。)

22. What’s the bot sending deal frequency per miner node/valid deal timeframe? As to maximize to tolerance for different hardware setup?

(机器人在每个矿工节点/有效交易时间范围内发送交易频率是多少?为了最大程度地兼容不同的硬件设置?)

The frequency will increase alongside the miner’s rate of adding committed storage. It will be somewhat randomized to simulate real-world behavior.

(频率会随着矿工增加承诺存储的速度而增加。它将在某种程度上随机化以模拟现实世界的行为。)

23. Can we confirm the mainnet launch time is on track? 20 Jul 2020 to 21 Aug 2020

(我们能否确认主网启动时间?2020年7月20日至2020年8月21日)

As we said in our roadmap update yesterday (https://filecoin.io/blog/roadmap-update-june-2020/), we’re continuing to make good progress towards mainnet launch, aiming towards the end of our mainnet launch window. However, all dates are still best-effort optimistic estimates – our top priority is to launch a secure and successful network.

(正如我们在昨天的路线图更新中(https://filecoin.io/blog/roadmap-update-june-2020/)所述,我们将继续朝着主网启动取得良好进展,以期结束我们的主网启动窗口。但是,所有日期仍是尽力而为的乐观估计-我们的首要任务是建立一个安全、成功的网络。)

24. For the incentive phase, you said a miner has to execute the full sector life cycle and terminate the sectors. What does “terminating” the sectors mean?

(在激励阶段,您说矿工必须执行整个扇区的生命周期并终止这些扇区。 “终止”扇区意味着什么?)

When a CC sector is added to the chain, it can upgrade to a sector with deals, extend its lifetime, or terminate through either faults or voluntary actions. While we don’t expect this to happen very often on Mainnet, a miner may deem it rational to terminate their promise to the network and their clients but accept a penalty for doing so. We want miners to execute the full sector lifecycle to get a flavor of providing long-term and useful storage on Filecoin.

(将承诺容量的扇区添加到链中后,它可以升级到具有交易的扇区,延长其寿命或通过故障或自愿行动终止。尽管我们不希望这种情况在主网上经常发生,但矿工可能认为终止对网络及其客户的承诺是合理的,但会因此受到惩罚。我们希望矿工执行完整的扇区生命周期,以获得在Filecoin上提供长期有用存储的体验。)

25. Does the CC sector still need to be sealed before it upgrades to one with real data ?

(承诺容量部门在升级为具有实际数据的扇区之前是否仍需要密封?)

For the first iteration of the protocol, yes. We have plans to make it cheaper and more economically attractive after Mainnet with no resealing required and other perks.

(对于协议的第一次迭代,是的。我们计划在使用主网后使其更便宜和更具经济吸引力,以及无需重新密封等其他好处。)

26. When shall we expected to get the detailed params of the filecoin’s Cryptoeconomic?

(我们预计什么时候可以获得Filecoin的代币经济学的详细参数?)

We are still finalizing our Cryptoecon parameters and they will continue to evolve. We are looking to solidify more final parameters in late July. Let us know if you have more questions on the structural mechanisms themselves.

(我们仍在最终确定Cryptoecon参数,并且它们将继续迭代。我们希望在7月下旬巩固更多最终参数。如果您对结构机制本身还有其他疑问,请告诉我们。)

27. We bought a lot of hard drives, when can they be shipped (China)?

(我们买了很多硬盘,什么时候可以发货到中国?)

There are a number of details that are still being finalized between the verified deals construction and the associated cryptoecon parameters.

Our aim is to allow these details to finalize before shipping, but given timelines we’re considering enabling teams to take receipt of these drives before the parameters are set.

(在经过验证的交易构造和关联的cryptoecon参数之间,仍有许多细节仍在确定中。

我们的目的是让这些详细信息在发货前最终确定,但是鉴于时间表,我们正在考虑让团队在设置参数之前接收这些驱动器。)

28. Will it be cheaper to store data on Filecoin than other centralized cloud services? If yes, when it is anticipated to occur?

(在Filecoin上存储数据会比其他集中式云服务便宜吗?如果是,预计何时发生?)

Filecoin creates a hyper-competitive market for data storage – there will be many miners offering many prices, rather than one fixed price on the network. We expect Filecoin’s permissionless model and low barriers to entry to result in some very efficient operations and low-priced storage, but it’s impossible to say what exact prices will be until the network is live.

(Filecoin为数据存储创造了一个竞争激烈的市场-网络上将有许多矿工提供很多价格,而不是一个固定价格。我们希望Filecoin的无许可模式和较低的进入壁垒会导致某些非常有效的运营和低价的存储,但是无法说确切的价格,直到网络正常运行。)

29. What if we lost a sector accidentally, is there any way to fix that?

(如果我们意外丢失了一个扇区,有什么办法可以解决?)

If you lost the data itself, then no, there’s no way to recover that, and you will be slashed for it. If the data itself is recoverable, though (say you just missed a Windowed PoSt), then the Recovery process will let you regain the sector.

(如果您丢失了数据本身,那么将无法恢复它,因此您将因此遭受损失。但是,如果数据本身是可恢复的(例如您刚错过了Windowed PoSt),那么恢复过程将使您可以重新获得该扇区。)

30. What data size is the bot gonna send to miners?

(机器人将发送给矿工的数据量是多少?)

Expect ranges from a few kilobytes up to full 32GiB sectors.

(期望范围从几千字节到完整的32GiB扇区。)

31. 有效数据怎么在竞赛中认定并存储?

They will not. Verified clients are not part of the testnet incentive competition.

(有效数据不会在测试网被验证。已验证用户不是测试网激励比赛的一部分。)

32. If the order book is off chain who is going to host it? Wouldnt that fragment the marketplace and liquidity into lots of little venues?

(如果订单簿是脱链的,谁来托管?会不会把市场和流动性分割成很多小场所?)

There will be a small number of different, competing orderbook protocols, similar to how there are different orderbooks for DeFi on Ethereum (eg 0x and others). We think this kind of protocol competition is a good thing that will allow innovation in the design space. We are very excited about what some development teams are working on and can’t wait to see them in action after mainnet launches. If you have some ideas for this, we recommend you try building them!

(将会有少量不同的竞争性订单簿协议,类似于以太坊上的DeFi的不同订单簿(例如0x等)。我们认为这种协议竞争是一件好事,它将允许设计领域的创新。我们对某些开发团队正在从事的工作感到非常兴奋,并且迫不及待地希望在主网启动后看到他们的实际行动。如果您对此有任何想法,建议您尝试构建它们!)

33. 5PB big miner incentive will be included or excluded in the 4M incentives?

(5PB大矿工奖励将包括在400万奖励中还是排除在外?)

The mechanisms for the incentive competition are here: https://filecoin.io/blog/announcing-testnet-incentives/

(奖励竞争的机制在这里:https://filecoin.io/blog/announcing-testnet-incentives/

34. 7.20的竞赛中,4百万FIL奖励全部都会被矿工瓜分吗?你们预期矿工能拿到多少?

你可以在这里:https://filecoin.io/blog/announcing-testnet-incentives/

了解更多关于测试网激励的细节。多少Fil会被瓜分是由矿工决定的,你可以加码更多存储来解锁更多奖励。

35. What’s the minimum time period for the storage contract between the provider and the buyer?

(提供者和购买者之间的存储合同的最短期限是什么?)

The minimum duration for a deal is set in the miner’s ask. There’s also a practical limitation, because sectors have a minimum duration (currently one month).

(交易的最短持续时间由矿工的要价设定。还有一个实际的限制,因为扇区的持续时间最短(目前为一个月)。)

36. How are you working to bootstrap the demand side of the marketplace? The Discover program is nice but who is the target market for users and how do you get them?

(您如何引导市场的需求侧?Discover计划很好,但是谁是用户的目标市场以及如何获得他们呢?)

In addition to Filecoin Discover, a number of groups are actively building tools and services to support adoption of the Filecoin network with developers and clients. For example, check out the recordings from our Virtual Community Meetup to see updates about Textile Powergate and Starling Storage: https://filecoin.io/blog/filecoin-virtual-community-meetup-recap/ A number of other programs, like Filecoin Ignite, will also contribute additional demand, tooling, and usage.

(除了Filecoin Discover,许多团体正在积极构建工具和服务,以支持开发人员和客户采用Filecoin网络。 

例如,查看我们的虚拟社区聚会中的记录,以查看有关Textile Powergate和Starling Storage的更新:https://filecoin.io/blog/filecoin-virtual-community-meetup-recap/其他许多程序,例如Filecoin Ignite,还将贡献额外的需求,工具和用途。)

37. 经济参数什么时候公布?

We are still finalizing our Cryptoecon parameters and they will continue to evolve. We are looking to solidify more final parameters in late July. Let us know if you have more questions on the structural mechanisms themselves.

我们还在确定主网经济参数而这些参数也会逐步迭代演绎。我们希望在七月底确定接近主网上线的参数。如果有关于经济结构的问题,欢迎和我们联系。

38. 如果矿工大量的投入设备,后期算法更改对矿工带来的损失会是怎样的?

We anticipate two kinds of proof upgrades: (1) Optional Efficiency Upgrades, which are just to add new proof constructions that are cheaper or faster, and (2) Mandatory Security Upgrades, where we discover a problem with an algorithm and have to force the network to move to a new algorithm or a different set of parameters. For (1) Efficiency Upgrades, we expect these upgrades to be optional and coexist and be used only if miners and clients choose to make use of them. We expect 0, 1 or 2 of these per year. — For (2) Mandatory Security Upgrades, these will come with some sort of transition plan attempting to minimize cost to the network. We don’t expect these, but they may happen.

(我们预计会有两种证明升级:(1)可选的效率升级,仅用于添加更便宜或更快速的新证明构造;以及(2)强制性安全升级,其中我们发现算法问题并必须强制网络迁移到新算法或一组不同的参数。

对于(1)效率升级,我们希望这些升级是可选的并且共存,并且仅在矿工和客户选择使用它们时才使用。我们预计每年有0、1或2个。

对于(2)强制性安全升级,这些将带有某种过渡计划,试图将网络成本降至最低。我们不期望发生这些,但是可能会发生。)

39. Does filecoin reward network or main network line machine need fixed IP?

(Filecoin奖励网络或主网络线机是否需要固定IP?)

For mainnet, you will need a public IP address, but it doesn’t need to be fixed (just accessible).

(对于主网,您将需要一个公共IP地址,但不需要固定(仅需可访问)。)

40. 如果想参与挖矿,现在建不建议开始购买硬件?购买怎样的硬件?

While the Filecoin team does not recommend any specific hardware configuration, we did share some setups (https://filecoin.io/blog/announcing-testnet-incentives/#hardware) we’ve used for various types of testing. However, it is overwhelmingly likely that there are more efficient setups, and we strongly encourage miners to test and experiment to find the best combinations.

(尽管Filecoin团队不推荐购买任何具体硬件配置,但是我们分享了一些我们测试过的不同配置在这里(https://filecoin.io/blog/announcing-testnet-incentives/#hardware) 。

这些配置大概率可以被进一步优化,我们也推荐矿工测试和优化达到最佳配置组合。)

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6月26日, 北京时间上午10点Filecoin项目创始人胡安贝尼在Slido上进行了线上问答活动。一小时的时间里,胡安和其他几位Filecoin开发者在线上回答关于测试网激励和主网上线的40个问题。

火星云矿(mclouds.io)跟踪翻译整理,其中关键信息点如下:

1. 测试网的激励机制基于原始字节算力、交易完成和扇区生命周期参与度;

2. 为了最大程度的获得订单,将需要大量存储空间,良好的网络连接以及相当好的硬件;

3. 在硬件方面,AMD比intel更适用于目前的算法;

4. 从现在开始,我们要做的就是修复错误,提高性能以及使用新的API和文档改进UX;

5. 400万FIL测试网奖励计划将于7月20日开始;

6. 试图“欺骗”其位置的矿工将完全没有资格获得所有奖励;

7. 即使有一些大型矿池,任何人都可以加入网络并只需购买少量硬件即可提供存储,我们希望客户将其文件存储在许多不同的矿工中;

8. 主网经济模型参数将在7月确定;

9. 如果矿工丢失了数据,数据无法恢复。但如果数据本身是可恢复的,矿工可以通过恢复数据重新获得该扇区;

10. 矿工和客户之间交易的最短时长由矿工提单的时候决定,目前最低限制是1个月。 

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完整Q&A内容由火星云矿(mclouds.io)翻译整理:

1. Can the hard disk of fil discover catch up with the incentive competition on July 20 in time?

(官方Filecoin Discover的硬盘(发货进度)能赶上7月20日的测试网奖励竞赛吗?)

Filecoin Discover and testnet incentives are not related. Testnet incentives are based on raw byte-power, deal completion, and sector lifecycle participation. Filecoin Discover hard drives, and the verified client mechanism in general, have no impact on incentives.

(Filecoin Discover和testnet奖励没有关系。Testnet的激励机制基于原始字节算力、交易完成和扇区生命周期参与度。一般来说,Filecoin Discover硬盘驱动器和验证客户端机制不会对激励产生影响。)

2. What are the main factors for obtaining orders after filecoin go online? Algorithm? Hardware?Is there a difference between Intel and AMD? 

(Filecoin上线后获得订单的主要因素是什么?算法?硬件?英特尔和AMD之间有区别吗?)

To maximise the deals being made with your miner, you’ll need lots of storage, a good network connection, and reasonably good hardware (AMD works much better, see: https://github.com/filecoin-project/lotus/blob/master/documentation/en/sealing-procs.md).

–Aayush

(为了最大程度地与您的矿工进行交易,您将需要大量存储空间,良好的网络连接以及相当好的硬件(AMD的性能要好得多,请参阅:https://github.com/filecoin-project/lotus/blob/master/documentation/en/sealing-procs.md))

3. How likely is the NSE algorithm to come on line later?Is AMD’s configuration the most consistent with the current SDR algorithm.

(NSE算法发布的可能性有多大?AMD的配置与当前的SDR算法最一致吗?)

About NSE: NSE is one of the best candidates for a proof upgrade, and teams are working on implementation. But there are other candidates too, which are promising as well. It may be that another algorithm ends up better than NSE — we don’t know yet. Proof upgrades will arrive after mainnet launch and will coexist.

Yes, AMD may be optimal for SDR, see this for why: https://github.com/filecoin-project/lotus/blob/master/documentation/en/sealing-procs.md

(关于NSE:NSE是进行证明升级的最佳候选之一,并且团队正在努力实施。但是也有其他候选,也很有希望。可能是另一种算法的结果比NSE更好-我们尚不知道。证明升级将在主网启动后到来并共存。

是的,AMD可能是SDR的最佳选择,原因如下:https://github.com/filecoin-project/lotus/blob/master/documentation/en/sealing-procs.md

4. What are the changes to the algorithm and logic layer of lotus and go-filecoin before going online?

(上线之前,Lotus和go-filecoin的算法和逻辑层有哪些变化?)

No changes to “algorithm and logic” before we go live — from here on out, all we’re doing is fixing bugs (so please report them!), improving performance (our sync is *much* faster on the latest Testnet), and improving the UX with new APIs and documentation.

(在我们上线之前,“算法和逻辑”没有变化

从现在开始,我们要做的就是修复错误(因此,请报告错误!),提高性能(在最新的Testnet上,我们的同步*快得多*)以及使用新的API和文档改进UX。)

5. Will the 4M incentive program start on 20th of July?

(400万的测试网奖励计划是否将于7月20日开始?)

Yes.

6. Has Filecoin confirmed the use of SDR algorithm? Is there any evidence of malicious construction???

(Filecoin是否已确认使用SDR算法?是否有恶意构造的证据???)

SDR is confirmed for mainnet launch, and we have no evidence of malicious construction. The algorithm is also going through both internal and external security audits.

If you have any information about any potential security problem or malicious construction, reach out to our team at security@filecoin.org.

(SDR已确认可用于主网启动,并且我们没有恶意构建的证据。该算法还正在进行内部和外部安全审核。

如果您有任何有关任何潜在安全问题或恶意构建的信息,请通过security@filecoin.org与我们的团队联系。)

7. In the coming SpaceRace, how to identify a miner’s real location?

(在即将到来的SpaceRace中,如何识别矿工的真实位置?)

We’ll use a variety of technical and non-technical mechanisms. They may also be different for different miners. To avoid cheating, we’re not revealing the specific mechanisms until verification begins.

When we verify miners’ locations, we’ll reach out by email and coordinate a time that the miner will be standing by to provide verification. We’ll ask for some specific evidence and require submission within a short time period.

Location verification is not required to participate in either (i) the global leaderboard or (ii) the regional leaderboard for the most competitive region (i.e., the region with the most storage).

We consider the location of the storage and sealing hardware to be the location of the miner.

Please note that miners who attempt to “spoof” their location will be completely ineligible for all rewards.

我们将使用各种技术和非技术机制。对于不同的矿工,它们可能也有所不同。为避免作弊,在验证开始之前,我们不会透露具体的机制。

验证矿工的位置后,我们将通过电子邮件与他们联系,并协调矿工待命的时间以提供验证。我们将要求您提供一些具体证据,并要求在短时间内提交。

不需要提交地址证明来参加(i)全球排行榜或(ii)最具竞争力的区域(即存储量最大的区域)的区域排行榜的位置验证。

我们认为存储和密封硬件的位置就是矿工的位置。

请注意,试图“欺骗”其位置的矿工将完全没有资格获得所有奖励。

8. Is there a miner’s KYC certification process? By which way? How to identify the mining location of miners?

(有矿工的KYC认证流程吗?用什么方式 如何识别矿工的采矿地点?)

To receive tokens, miners will be required to verify their identity by providing passports or similar identity documents. We may need to request additional information in rare cases.

We’ll use a variety of technical and non-technical mechanisms. They may also be different for different miners. To avoid cheating, we’re not revealing the specific mechanisms until verification begins.

When we verify miners’ locations, we’ll reach out by email and coordinate a time that the miner will be standing by to provide verification. We’ll ask for some specific evidence and require submission within a short time period.

Location verification is not required to participate in either (i) the global leaderboard or (ii) the regional leaderboard for the most competitive region (i.e., the region with the most storage).

We consider the location of the storage and sealing hardware to be the location of the miner.

Please note that miners who attempt to “spoof” their location will be completely ineligible for all rewards.

(我们认为存储和密封硬件的位置就是矿工的位置。

请注意,试图“欺骗”其位置的矿工将完全没有资格获得所有奖励。)

我们将使用各种技术和非技术机制。对于不同的矿工,它们可能也有所不同。为避免作弊,在验证开始之前,我们不会透露具体的机制。

验证矿工的位置后,我们将通过电子邮件与他们联系,并协调矿工待命的时间以提供验证。我们将要求您提供一些具体证据,并要求在短时间内提交。

不需要提交地址证明来参加(i)全球排行榜或(ii)最具竞争力的区域(即存储量最大的区域)的区域排行榜的位置验证。

我们认为存储和密封硬件的位置就是矿工的位置。

请注意,试图“欺骗”其位置的矿工将完全没有资格获得所有奖励。

9. How to realize reward network retrieval and real data?

(如何实现奖励网络检索和真实数据?)

During the competition, once your miner has > 0 storage power, many bots will begin attempting storage and retrieval deals with your miner. The competition dashboard will display your deal success rate in near-real time. Miners below a certain high threshold will be ineligible to receive rewards.

We plan to run the bots for one to two weeks before the competition to give miners a chance to test their configuration, and will announce when that begins.

(在比赛中,一旦您的矿工的存储功率大于0,许多机器人将开始尝试与您的矿工进行存储和检索交易。竞争仪表板将近实时显示您的交易成功率。低于某个高门槛的矿工将没有资格获得奖励。

我们计划在比赛前将机器人运行一到两周,以使矿工有机会测试其配置,并会宣布何时开始。)

10. The Filecoin Client is not usable enough, so how to give a deal by customers when mainnet launch?

(Filecoin客户端无法充分使用,那么在主网启动时如何由客户进行交易?)

Improving the UX and fixing bugs is our only priority right now. We’re excited to be fixing all the issues the community is reporting, so please keep complaining (file issues on Github, and post in #fil-lotus on Slack).

(改进UX和修复错误是我们目前唯一的优先事项。我们很高兴能解决社区报告的所有问题,因此请继续抱怨(在Github上提交问题,并在Slack上的#fil-lotus中发布)。)

11. Lotus or Gofilecoin,which is better for miners?

(Lotus或Gofilecoin,哪个对矿工更好?)

Lotus is our reference implementation, and getting more developer attention right now.

(Lotus是我们的参考实现,现在越来越引起开发人员的注意。)

12. So we are going to use SDR till 6 months after Filecoin come on line ? Is NSE (or some other algorithms) be used or added after after Filecoin come on line ?

(那么我们要在Filecoin上线后的6个月内使用SDR吗?Filecoin上线后是否使用或添加NSE(或其他一些算法)?)

We have other constructions in development, NSE and other options. They will be proposed as network upgrades through a FIP (Filecoin Improvement Proposal) after Mainnet launch. We hope to have at least one of these faster and cheaper constructions online within 6-12mo, but the development timeline depends on a lot of different constraints after mainnet launch. Note that new proofs will coexist with SDR, so a new cheaper proof will be optional to miners.

(我们在开发,NSE和其他选项方面还有其他结构。在主网启动后,将通过FIP(Filecoin改进提案)提出网络升级建议。我们希望在6-12mo内至少有一种更快,更便宜的在线构造,但是开发时间表取决于主网启动后的许多不同限制。请注意,新的证明将与SDR共存,因此矿工可以选择使用新的更便宜的证明。)

13. Will the existence of filecoin pool lead to the deviation of centralized storage from the vision of distributed storage?

(Filecoin矿池的存在是否会导致存储的集中化,从而偏离分布式存储的愿景?)

No – Filecoin creates a decentralized storage network in part by massively decreasing the barrier to entry to becoming a storage provider. Even if there were some large pools, anyone can join the network and provide storage with just a modest hardware purchase, and we expect clients to store their files with many diverse miners.

Also, note that world location matters for mining: many clients will prefer miners in specific regions of the world, so this enables lots of miners to succeed across the world, where there is storage demand.

(不,Filecoin可以部分地通过大大降低成为存储提供商的准入门槛来创建去中心化的存储网络。即使有一些大型矿池,任何人都可以加入网络并只需购买少量硬件即可提供存储,我们希望客户将其文件存储在许多不同的矿工中。

另外,请注意,地理位置对挖矿至关重要:许多客户将更喜欢在世界特定地区的矿工,因此这使许多矿工在存在存储需求的世界各地都能成功。)

14. Any updates of the security research fellowship? any new critical bugs ? been found/submitted?

(安全研究有任何进展吗?是否发现/提交了新的严重错误?)

In the next couple of weeks, there will be a website to view bug submissions, security research fellows, and submit new reports. We also plan to introduce a public bounty program similar to Ethereum’s.

(在接下来的几周中,将有一个网站可以查看错误提交,安全研究人员提交新报告。我们还计划推出类似于以太坊的公共赏金计划。)

15. If someone could bring many ‘verified client’ or reputable business data users on board, any mechanism for rewarding/benifit this activity?

(如果有人可以带动许多“经过验证的客户”或信誉良好的业务数据用户,那么有什么机制可以奖励/受益于这项活动?)

We anticipate that miners will compete for deals from verified clients, and some partnerships could emerge between miners and reputable users.

(我们预计,矿工将与经过验证的客户争夺交易,并且矿工与信誉良好的用户之间可能会出现一些合作伙伴关系。)

16. How does a committed capacity sector turn into a sector with real client data? Is it automatically covered with real data when there’s a real deal?

(承诺的容量扇区如何变成具有真实客户数据的扇区?达成交易时,会自动用真实数据覆盖吗?)

Committed Capacity sectors are like empty Uber cars on a platform economy. Miners commit capacity to the network when there is unmet supply and upgrade them to sectors with deals when demand arrives to earn additional revenue. For the first iteration of the protocol, we will reuse much of the existing code path. Miners will publish their storage deals, announce to the chain that they are doing an upgrade, and prove that the upgrade has been done successfully.

(承诺产能扇区就像平台经济上的空Uber汽车。矿工在供应不足时向网络承诺容量,并在需求到来时将其升级为有交易的扇区以赚取额外收入。对于协议的第一次迭代,我们将复用许多现有的代码路径。矿工将发布他们的存储交易,向链宣布他们正在进行升级,并证明升级已成功完成。)

17. What do miners have to do to change a committed capacity sector into a “real-data” sector?

(矿工如何将承诺的产能扇区转变为“真实数据”扇区?)

We are reusing much of the existing code path for this first iteration. Miners will publish storage deals that they will upgrade the CC sector with, announce to the chain that they are doing an upgrade, and prove to the chain that a new sector has been sealed correctly. We expect to evolve and make this cheaper and more attractive over time after Mainnet.

(我们在第一次迭代中复用了许多现有的代码路径。矿工将发布存储交易,与之一起升级承诺容量扇区,并向链宣布其正在进行升级,并向链证明新扇区已正确密封。我们希望随着主网的发展,随着时间的推移,它会变得更便宜,更有吸引力。)

18. Hi, look at this.??How do ordinary people, not geeks, get involved in this work?

(普通人如何参与这项工作?)

You can start from checking out the tutorials from Protoschool: https://proto.school/#/tutorials

Participate in the hackathon and future events of Filecoin Ignite: https://ignite.fil.events/

Check out the different tools to build dapps on Filecoin: https://blog.textile.io/

(您可以从Protoschool的教程开始:https://proto.school/#/tutorials

参加Filecoin Ignite的黑客马拉松和未来事件:https://ignite.fil.events/

查看在Filecoin上构建dapp的不同工具:https://blog.textile.io/

19. What are the standards and conditions of the verifier, is there a selected institution to verify, can you tell us about this situation?

(验证者的标准和条件是什么?是否有选定的机构进行验证,您能告诉我们这种情况吗?)

There will be several different institutions. We don’t have more updates about Verfiers at this time. We will have more around mid July.

(会有几个不同的机构。目前,我们没有关于验证者的更多更新。我们会在7月中旬左右更新更多信息。)

20. What is the mechanism of verified clients? How to apply to be verified clients?

(验证客户的机制是什么?如何申请经过验证的客户?)

Check out this presentation for the basics of Verified Clients and Verifiers: https://youtu.be/q5Vwr0cwQuY?t=920 — We don’t have more updates about Verfiers at this time. We will update more later in July.

(请查看此演示文稿,以了解已验证客户端和验证程序的基础知识:https://youtu.be/q5Vwr0cwQuY?t=920-目前我们没有关于验证者的更多更新。我们稍后将在7月更新更多信息。)

21. Why not implement the scheme that the white paper says “miners and clients automatically match orders through order books”?Is it because the LIMITS of TPS ?

(为什么不执行白皮书中所说的“矿工和客户通过订单簿自动匹配订单”的方案?是因为TPS的限制吗?)

There will be off-chain orderbooks and miner marketplaces — some are in development now from some teams. They will work mostly off-chain, because TPS on chain is not enough for the volume of usage we expect on Filecoin. These orderbooks build on the basic deal-flow on chain. These orderbooks will arrive in their own development trajectory — most likely around or soon after mainnet launch.

(将会有链下订单和矿工市场-一些团队正在开发中。它们将大部分在链下工作,因为链上的TPS不足以达到我们期望在Filecoin上使用的数量。这些订单基于链上的基本交易流程。这些订单将以它们自己的发展轨迹出现-最有可能在主网启动前后。)

22. What’s the bot sending deal frequency per miner node/valid deal timeframe? As to maximize to tolerance for different hardware setup?

(机器人在每个矿工节点/有效交易时间范围内发送交易频率是多少?为了最大程度地兼容不同的硬件设置?)

The frequency will increase alongside the miner’s rate of adding committed storage. It will be somewhat randomized to simulate real-world behavior.

(频率会随着矿工增加承诺存储的速度而增加。它将在某种程度上随机化以模拟现实世界的行为。)

23. Can we confirm the mainnet launch time is on track? 20 Jul 2020 to 21 Aug 2020

(我们能否确认主网启动时间?2020年7月20日至2020年8月21日)

As we said in our roadmap update yesterday (https://filecoin.io/blog/roadmap-update-june-2020/), we’re continuing to make good progress towards mainnet launch, aiming towards the end of our mainnet launch window. However, all dates are still best-effort optimistic estimates – our top priority is to launch a secure and successful network.

(正如我们在昨天的路线图更新中(https://filecoin.io/blog/roadmap-update-june-2020/)所述,我们将继续朝着主网启动取得良好进展,以期结束我们的主网启动窗口。但是,所有日期仍是尽力而为的乐观估计-我们的首要任务是建立一个安全、成功的网络。)

24. For the incentive phase, you said a miner has to execute the full sector life cycle and terminate the sectors. What does “terminating” the sectors mean?

(在激励阶段,您说矿工必须执行整个扇区的生命周期并终止这些扇区。 “终止”扇区意味着什么?)

When a CC sector is added to the chain, it can upgrade to a sector with deals, extend its lifetime, or terminate through either faults or voluntary actions. While we don’t expect this to happen very often on Mainnet, a miner may deem it rational to terminate their promise to the network and their clients but accept a penalty for doing so. We want miners to execute the full sector lifecycle to get a flavor of providing long-term and useful storage on Filecoin.

(将承诺容量的扇区添加到链中后,它可以升级到具有交易的扇区,延长其寿命或通过故障或自愿行动终止。尽管我们不希望这种情况在主网上经常发生,但矿工可能认为终止对网络及其客户的承诺是合理的,但会因此受到惩罚。我们希望矿工执行完整的扇区生命周期,以获得在Filecoin上提供长期有用存储的体验。)

25. Does the CC sector still need to be sealed before it upgrades to one with real data ?

(承诺容量部门在升级为具有实际数据的扇区之前是否仍需要密封?)

For the first iteration of the protocol, yes. We have plans to make it cheaper and more economically attractive after Mainnet with no resealing required and other perks.

(对于协议的第一次迭代,是的。我们计划在使用主网后使其更便宜和更具经济吸引力,以及无需重新密封等其他好处。)

26. When shall we expected to get the detailed params of the filecoin’s Cryptoeconomic?

(我们预计什么时候可以获得Filecoin的代币经济学的详细参数?)

We are still finalizing our Cryptoecon parameters and they will continue to evolve. We are looking to solidify more final parameters in late July. Let us know if you have more questions on the structural mechanisms themselves.

(我们仍在最终确定Cryptoecon参数,并且它们将继续迭代。我们希望在7月下旬巩固更多最终参数。如果您对结构机制本身还有其他疑问,请告诉我们。)

27. We bought a lot of hard drives, when can they be shipped (China)?

(我们买了很多硬盘,什么时候可以发货到中国?)

There are a number of details that are still being finalized between the verified deals construction and the associated cryptoecon parameters.

Our aim is to allow these details to finalize before shipping, but given timelines we’re considering enabling teams to take receipt of these drives before the parameters are set.

(在经过验证的交易构造和关联的cryptoecon参数之间,仍有许多细节仍在确定中。

我们的目的是让这些详细信息在发货前最终确定,但是鉴于时间表,我们正在考虑让团队在设置参数之前接收这些驱动器。)

28. Will it be cheaper to store data on Filecoin than other centralized cloud services? If yes, when it is anticipated to occur?

(在Filecoin上存储数据会比其他集中式云服务便宜吗?如果是,预计何时发生?)

Filecoin creates a hyper-competitive market for data storage – there will be many miners offering many prices, rather than one fixed price on the network. We expect Filecoin’s permissionless model and low barriers to entry to result in some very efficient operations and low-priced storage, but it’s impossible to say what exact prices will be until the network is live.

(Filecoin为数据存储创造了一个竞争激烈的市场-网络上将有许多矿工提供很多价格,而不是一个固定价格。我们希望Filecoin的无许可模式和较低的进入壁垒会导致某些非常有效的运营和低价的存储,但是无法说确切的价格,直到网络正常运行。)

29. What if we lost a sector accidentally, is there any way to fix that?

(如果我们意外丢失了一个扇区,有什么办法可以解决?)

If you lost the data itself, then no, there’s no way to recover that, and you will be slashed for it. If the data itself is recoverable, though (say you just missed a Windowed PoSt), then the Recovery process will let you regain the sector.

(如果您丢失了数据本身,那么将无法恢复它,因此您将因此遭受损失。但是,如果数据本身是可恢复的(例如您刚错过了Windowed PoSt),那么恢复过程将使您可以重新获得该扇区。)

30. What data size is the bot gonna send to miners?

(机器人将发送给矿工的数据量是多少?)

Expect ranges from a few kilobytes up to full 32GiB sectors.

(期望范围从几千字节到完整的32GiB扇区。)

31. 有效数据怎么在竞赛中认定并存储?

They will not. Verified clients are not part of the testnet incentive competition.

(有效数据不会在测试网被验证。已验证用户不是测试网激励比赛的一部分。)

32. If the order book is off chain who is going to host it? Wouldnt that fragment the marketplace and liquidity into lots of little venues?

(如果订单簿是脱链的,谁来托管?会不会把市场和流动性分割成很多小场所?)

There will be a small number of different, competing orderbook protocols, similar to how there are different orderbooks for DeFi on Ethereum (eg 0x and others). We think this kind of protocol competition is a good thing that will allow innovation in the design space. We are very excited about what some development teams are working on and can’t wait to see them in action after mainnet launches. If you have some ideas for this, we recommend you try building them!

(将会有少量不同的竞争性订单簿协议,类似于以太坊上的DeFi的不同订单簿(例如0x等)。我们认为这种协议竞争是一件好事,它将允许设计领域的创新。我们对某些开发团队正在从事的工作感到非常兴奋,并且迫不及待地希望在主网启动后看到他们的实际行动。如果您对此有任何想法,建议您尝试构建它们!)

33. 5PB big miner incentive will be included or excluded in the 4M incentives?

(5PB大矿工奖励将包括在400万奖励中还是排除在外?)

The mechanisms for the incentive competition are here: https://filecoin.io/blog/announcing-testnet-incentives/

(奖励竞争的机制在这里:https://filecoin.io/blog/announcing-testnet-incentives/

34. 7.20的竞赛中,4百万FIL奖励全部都会被矿工瓜分吗?你们预期矿工能拿到多少?

你可以在这里:https://filecoin.io/blog/announcing-testnet-incentives/

了解更多关于测试网激励的细节。多少Fil会被瓜分是由矿工决定的,你可以加码更多存储来解锁更多奖励。

35. What’s the minimum time period for the storage contract between the provider and the buyer?

(提供者和购买者之间的存储合同的最短期限是什么?)

The minimum duration for a deal is set in the miner’s ask. There’s also a practical limitation, because sectors have a minimum duration (currently one month).

(交易的最短持续时间由矿工的要价设定。还有一个实际的限制,因为扇区的持续时间最短(目前为一个月)。)

36. How are you working to bootstrap the demand side of the marketplace? The Discover program is nice but who is the target market for users and how do you get them?

(您如何引导市场的需求侧?Discover计划很好,但是谁是用户的目标市场以及如何获得他们呢?)

In addition to Filecoin Discover, a number of groups are actively building tools and services to support adoption of the Filecoin network with developers and clients. For example, check out the recordings from our Virtual Community Meetup to see updates about Textile Powergate and Starling Storage: https://filecoin.io/blog/filecoin-virtual-community-meetup-recap/ A number of other programs, like Filecoin Ignite, will also contribute additional demand, tooling, and usage.

(除了Filecoin Discover,许多团体正在积极构建工具和服务,以支持开发人员和客户采用Filecoin网络。 

例如,查看我们的虚拟社区聚会中的记录,以查看有关Textile Powergate和Starling Storage的更新:https://filecoin.io/blog/filecoin-virtual-community-meetup-recap/其他许多程序,例如Filecoin Ignite,还将贡献额外的需求,工具和用途。)

37. 经济参数什么时候公布?

We are still finalizing our Cryptoecon parameters and they will continue to evolve. We are looking to solidify more final parameters in late July. Let us know if you have more questions on the structural mechanisms themselves.

我们还在确定主网经济参数而这些参数也会逐步迭代演绎。我们希望在七月底确定接近主网上线的参数。如果有关于经济结构的问题,欢迎和我们联系。

38. 如果矿工大量的投入设备,后期算法更改对矿工带来的损失会是怎样的?

We anticipate two kinds of proof upgrades: (1) Optional Efficiency Upgrades, which are just to add new proof constructions that are cheaper or faster, and (2) Mandatory Security Upgrades, where we discover a problem with an algorithm and have to force the network to move to a new algorithm or a different set of parameters. For (1) Efficiency Upgrades, we expect these upgrades to be optional and coexist and be used only if miners and clients choose to make use of them. We expect 0, 1 or 2 of these per year. — For (2) Mandatory Security Upgrades, these will come with some sort of transition plan attempting to minimize cost to the network. We don’t expect these, but they may happen.

(我们预计会有两种证明升级:(1)可选的效率升级,仅用于添加更便宜或更快速的新证明构造;以及(2)强制性安全升级,其中我们发现算法问题并必须强制网络迁移到新算法或一组不同的参数。

对于(1)效率升级,我们希望这些升级是可选的并且共存,并且仅在矿工和客户选择使用它们时才使用。我们预计每年有0、1或2个。

对于(2)强制性安全升级,这些将带有某种过渡计划,试图将网络成本降至最低。我们不期望发生这些,但是可能会发生。)

39. Does filecoin reward network or main network line machine need fixed IP?

(Filecoin奖励网络或主网络线机是否需要固定IP?)

For mainnet, you will need a public IP address, but it doesn’t need to be fixed (just accessible).

(对于主网,您将需要一个公共IP地址,但不需要固定(仅需可访问)。)

40. 如果想参与挖矿,现在建不建议开始购买硬件?购买怎样的硬件?

While the Filecoin team does not recommend any specific hardware configuration, we did share some setups (https://filecoin.io/blog/announcing-testnet-incentives/#hardware) we’ve used for various types of testing. However, it is overwhelmingly likely that there are more efficient setups, and we strongly encourage miners to test and experiment to find the best combinations.

(尽管Filecoin团队不推荐购买任何具体硬件配置,但是我们分享了一些我们测试过的不同配置在这里(https://filecoin.io/blog/announcing-testnet-incentives/#hardware) 。

这些配置大概率可以被进一步优化,我们也推荐矿工测试和优化达到最佳配置组合。)

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